Talk:Reinhard van Astrea/@comment-39563204-20200927074857/@comment-180.249.255.190-20200929142817

In arc 4 (Second trial) Subaru see Reinhard destroyed Puck alongside the world and rebirth the world with his attack. However it's weird if you consider that the second trial was supposed to be the "well constructed unreality" from Subaru's memory when Subaru only has seen Reinhard destroyed the loot house. Echidna already see from Subaru's memory that Puck is capable to freezing the surrounding area in his true form and Puck himself said to Subaru "In accordance with my contract, I will now destroy the world."

So how the second trial show that Reinhard capable to destroy the world when Subaru never see it for himself. The reason is because Echidna was alive when Reid Astrea was still around and she has seen the true extent of Reid's power 400 years ago, she concluded that Reinhard is capable doing the same feat.

This is the most logical conclusion and the reason why Reid Astrea and Satella aren't on the top 5 strongest character in Re:Zero because the author was planning to show the extent of their true power on the later arc (Probably about what happened in the past 400 years ago when Reid was alive and the Witch of Envy went on rampage).