Talk:Rem/@comment-128.199.248.93-20190721043754/@comment-16674955-20190721175038

There is a difference between lying and telling something untrue but you actually believe.

If Rem thought Subaru was shady and told Crusch that he wasn't, it would have been detected as a lie because it truly is: she is going against what she actually believes.

If Rem thought that Subaru was not shady and told so, it would not be detected as a lie, but it would not take away Subaru's "shadyness" either.

The same would apply with Subaru telling technically correct things but lying about the phone. He lies in a certain way that what he says is true, and it isn't detected as a lie because what he says (the phone being the reason he knows when the whale appears) is not a lie in and of itself. But he's still manipulating her.

If he had a little more different wording, he might have screwed himself there.