Talk:Flugel/@comment-99.232.106.176-20200918214338/@comment-99.232.106.176-20200919185157

@MrCents04

The most recent episode of the anime Echidna confesses the gospel given to Beatrice with the instruction to wait around for "that person" was in itself an experiment to see how long Beatrice would wait and despair. The gospel Roswaal possess has different contents to it. The gospels are believed to be divine instruction from the witches to achieve their goal(s) when in fact it's to achieve the witch's goal/desire (Echidna or Pandora.)

The more information I come accross it's seeming to suggest that the Flugel/Sage of 400 years past and Subaru are not  the same but they are people of prophecy which whom are fated. I know this might sound wild but hear me out, the original 7 (Echidna, Sekhmet, Daphne, Typhon, Minerva, Carmilla, and Satella) were not the first witches of their world. What I do find interesting regarding that, Pandora and Hektor also existed 400 years in the past before Satella had been overtaken by the Envy witch factor. Would it sound farfetched to say that Subaru is not the Flugel but he is destined to become the Sage by defeating the Archbishops and taking their witch factors?

If we consider the fact that Hektor attempted to kill Echidna (unknown reason) and has not been seen or heard from since the barrier around sanctuary had been erected, perhaps he has been trapped wandering inside the barrier for the last 4 centuries (this would confirm he's a half-blood, perhaps elf) hence why only Puck and Echidna have memory of him (Echidna created Puck.) There's also some dialogue from Echidna when she says there are 3 people in which she truly hates, Satella/Envy, Emilia, and "Him" which I believe is referring to Hektor but she's reluctant to acknowledge his name since his existence has all but been forgotten.

As for Pandora, her origins are similar to Hektors in the sense that it has not been clarified. We know Pandora has existed for at least 400 years because Echidna and her are acquainted. How Pandora received her witch factor is also a mystery. There are two possibilities that can explain Pandora's origins 1.) She was created by a witch 2.) She is an old age witch that predates all the present ones. There are a few lingering questions about her existence but seeing as she can rewrite/negate reality at a whim it wouldn't be a far stretch to say she had a hand to play in past and current events unfolding. Her motivations to open the seal in Elior forest are still a mystery but we know for fact she intends to have Emilia open it as she stated in the past.

What am I suggesting with all of this? Here goes...

I believe Pandora to be the actual real "villain" to this story. Echidna's witch factor grants her the ability to get information on anything she desires. Echidna can also use the ability to glimpse at possible futures. Pandora's witch factor abilities allow her to rewrite the reality before her, which is why things usually go her way. She can also erase her existence from a persons memory exactly as Echidna had done to Subaru the first time he and her met in Sanctuary. During her fight with Fortuna she showcased her firghtening abilities and subsequently drove Petelgeuse mad, maybe she did the same thing to the Witch of Envy. I am not certain what Pandora's end game plan might be but for certain we know it involves what is sealed inside Elior forest and Emilia is the one who possess the key so their paths will inevitably cross as she foreshadowed.

Just a fun thought to end on, what if Emilia's father was the Flugel? She did thaw out in a tree he planted in Bonds of Ice and it would be intersting since the other half of the of her half-elf lineage is yet to be revealed.