Thread:Angelo Gabrini/@comment-179.234.141.93-20170214023304/@comment-31302256-20170214105100

Premise: I studied Latin for 5 years, I konw Italian, English and I have a friend that knows Japanese on the phone and my latin dictionary is something like 2kg. Also I know my shit in theology regarding this as it's not the first fictional work revolving on the capital sins.

Angelo Gabrini wrote: Ok, let's take a look at it:

Tristitia was one of the old sins along with vainglory According to Wikipedia, it lists acedia and not tristitia as a historical sin, which wouldn't make sense if it should be tristitia since otherwise it should be tristitia in that section and not acedia. Also, in the same section, it states "It is related to melancholy: acedia describes the behaviour and melancholy suggests the emotion producing it" A couple of paragraphs above you have a clear statement on which the list exactly is. It can be clearly seen Tristitia in it, and the final one goes as: "In AD 590 Pope Gregory I revised this list to form the more common list. Gregory combined tristitia and acedia, vanagloria and superbia, and added envy. Gregory's list became the standard list of sins."

Considering that the official name of Sloth IS Acedia, it makes NO sense of having it as a separate sin with Hector. Tristitia was folded into Acedia, that kept its name.

Also, that section about the Historical sins is a flat contradiction of the part above, Wikipedia made a mess on that one as the is no difference between Sloth and Acedia on any standpoint as Sloth is the name of the Sin in the English language while acedia is the Latin one. And you know what, I will probably fix that too using the Italian Wikipedia as reference

A quick Latin/English translation shows that acedia does not translate to sloth, here are the results for that. Tristitia comes out as sadness. I did check these across multiple translators just in case. By your reasoning, it wouldn't make sense for tristitia to be used either since it's listed to also be a valid alternative for sloth

Based on the above, I don't think it's wise to treat acedia and sloth as the same thing in this situation

Come again? also my Latin-Italian dictionary translates Acedia into Accidia that is a synonym of lazyness in my language, and in general you can't have 1-on-1 translations. Also the point is moot as the official list clearly shows that Acedia is the Latin name of the same Sin and Tristitia does exist as a Sin.

And it's explicitly stated that Tristitia was folded into Acedia that is Sloth

The one who got it wrong is the one who decided to translate Hector's 憂鬱 into Acedia in the first place as it unambiguosly means Sadness/Melanchony/Depression and there is NO overlap with Laziness in the possible translations. It's clearly Tristitia.